Joe Hawley is a former NFL player who lives and breathes the outdoors. Last summer, we had the pleasure of hosting him on one of our RiverWonderGrass trips through Dinosaur National Monument. As we do, he and I maintained our connection – so much so to the point that he’s bringing out a handful of ex-NFL players for a trip on Adrift.
He recently invited me to sit with him on his podcast, Quantum Coffee, where we dug into the power of nature and its ability to bring us back to presence and stillness. We go into the importance of empathy and cultivating an ability to understand and find truth in differing perspectives.
Take a listen to the full podcast here.